1. Class of ’77,Reed, LC, EC. Mr Mc, band/orchestra & band teacher at LC. Every April 12th, I remember his birthday. With this mega weather events we’re having has evoked alot of memories of those who have went on ahead. Mr Mc could play almost any instrument, but strings, such as me. I still learned a tremendous amount of life from him. July. 1996, I saw where Joe Cagle was having a singing at.a BA church. I was able to get in touch w/MrMc, I picked him up, we went & met Joe at Burger

  2. I read a post about “Junior Auction” sponsored by Kitty Clover. However, I vividly remember such a show, but the kids bid using pop bottle caps instead of Kitty Clover coupons. Does anyone remember this kids show and the brand of pop?

  3. my name is Robert Serge aka Stem I used to hang out in Woodward park, the nine of cups, magician theater in 1974 and later. I’m looking for Ken Batchelor and Susan Steele and Mary Lee who were close friends, I’ve not not hear from them since then…

  4. hey Mike,

    My name is Stuart McSpadden and I am working on a documentary about Oklahoma in the 70s and 80s. I would love to get on the phone with you and talk about a couple of different topics.


  5. re: Ron Enderland and miamihistory.net

    There’s more to Miami, Oklahoma than a town name in tornado watch bulletins and such.
    Nice job!

  6. Hi my name is Kevin. I was on an episode of ‘THE URBAN ALMANAC ” with Pat Richardson years ago. The band I was in “On The Edge ” were the musical guests one night. I lost my copy of the tape years ago. Is there anyone who knows where I can find copies of the old shows?

  7. Hi all!

    I’m Jeramy, (current) promo manager at KJRH. As you probably know, KJRH(KVOO/KTEW) is turning 65 this year. We’re planning to celebrate all year, so I’ve spent the last couple of weeks tracking down as much vintage material as I can get my hands… but I’d love to get my hands on more!

    Video from the 50s and 60s looks like the hardest to find, especially from our newscasts back then. I’d also love to get footage from some of our bygone local shows, especially Big Bill and Oom-a-Gog, to really showcase the history of KJRH.

    Any help at all would be very much appreciated! I can even take reels and tapes if you have them. To get in touch, shoot me an e-mail at jeramy.pappas@kjrh.com or give me a call here at the station.



  8. Hey Mike, Ron Enderland here.

    I’ve taken all of that energy I spent on I Remember JFK and channeled it into a site about the history of my hometown Miami. It’s miamihistory.net.

    If anyone is curious about Miami, this is the site they need to hit. It has around 2500 images, a virtual tour of Main, Central, East and West A, and of some other buildings scattered throughout town. It has an urban exploration area, where I’ve been allowed into some neat old structures to take pics. It has a business database with over 2400 entries, giving name, address, first year seen, and any other details. Its search brings up images and text. And there are a bunch of articles that I’ve written about Miami’s history. One last thing, in the resources section, there are some great downloadable goodies, including old city guides, a 1950 phone book, and lots of bios and reminiscences of long time residents.

    I’m going to give you a link back. I had forgotten what an amazing work you yourself have put together.

    Take care–

    Ron Enderland

    • Great work, Ron. I was at our Central Library looking at a 1969 Polk Directory, thinking about how cool it would be to have a Google Map or something like it to lay out that kind of data over the years, and there you have done a version of that for your hometown: miamihistory.net.

  9. Just wondered if any of the real old/timers are around? The likes of Jim Hartz, Scooter Seagraves, Larry Thomlinson, is Ed Dumit still living? Would like to catch up on anyone working the 50’s, 60’s for KRMG, KRAV

  10. re: Neal’s in the 1969 Polk

    Thank’s Mike. That’s the right spot and must be the one, but the name doesn’t trigger what I thought it might. Just another slippery memory I guess.

    Happy New Year to you and to those who ramble around in here.

  11. I wonder if anyone recalls Victor Mendoza? He used to play the guitar and sing in local Mexican restaurants, wearing the whole mariachi outfit and a fancy two-gun rig, probably totally illegal now. Before that he had a Mexican restaurant of his own. I think he also sang in a group with his brothers, a long time ago. Any memories would be very welcome. Probably the last time I saw him was in the late 80s. Thanks and Happy New Year to all!

  12. Mike Palmer,
    I haven’t spoken to you in years. I still have the wooden CONUS satellite uplink truck you sent to me shortly after you began working for them in Minneapolis.

    I, too, was on the staff when then Vice-President George H.W. Bush came to Channel 8. We all had to go through Secret Service clearance and had to wear a button showing you passed clearance. I think I still have the button.

    I met him just outside the studio. You and Brad pulled some shenanigans to meet him, but it worked!

  13. Hi Everyone,

    I posted this to LinkedIn over the weekend, and thought you might enjoy the story as well.

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/cavu-president-bush-mike-palmer/ (photo here)


    In the summer of 1988 I was working in my second job in television at KTUL in Tulsa. The Presidential race was in full swing and the campaign staff of then VP George Bush made last minute arrangements to conduct a series of regional satellite interviews using the station’s new satellite truck. I was scheduled off-work that day, but heard through the grapevine that the VP would be at the station. I thought it would be a good opportunity to get a closer look at how national news was made.

    Earlier in the year Dan Rather conducted a similar type of remote interview with Bush that, though extremely tame by today’s standards, had both Rather and Bush notably hot under their collars.

    My favorite part of that interview (06:30)was when Bush asks Rather: “How would you like it if people judged your whole career by those seven seconds when you walked off the set in New York…” The look on Rather’s face is priceless.

    No doubt Bush’s campaign felt that using new SNG technology to conduct their own interviews directly with local stations allowed them to bypass the networks and have more control over their message.

    I arrived at the station before the Secret Service locked down access, and together with Brad Huffines, the weekend meteorologist who was also off work, and one of the stations promotions staff cooked up a plan to shake the VP’s hand and maybe get our pictures taken with him. Brad had thought ahead and brought his baby, saying “What candidate can resist a baby?” Our naive plan was to wait near the studio’s back door and simply wait for Bush to finish his satellite interviews and leave.

    The station was by then on lock-down, so, baby in arms, we walked around the building to the back door where the Vice President’s limo was parked. Of course we were immediately stopped and questioned by the Secret Service. We told them we were hoping for a hand-shake and photo. The Secret Service eventually recognized we were not three random men walking up a wooded hill with a baby, but instead were overly excited employees of station. After receiving an eye-roll or two, they told us we couldn’t stand near the back door, but we could stand off to one side of the limo So, the three of us (and Brad’s baby) took up position off the left rear fender of Bush’s limo, and we waited.

    When the satellite interviews were finished, Bush came out the studio’s rear exit in a flurry of activity and stood next to his open limo. Most of the station staff followed him out the door and stood next to the building to wave and watch the spectacle. But Bush was looking at them and not the three of us lurking on the other side of his car.

    The hub-bub began to quiet. Bush put one foot in the limo. We felt our opportunity slipping away. Brad held his baby up above his head and started waving him like a flag. Then, in a stroke of absolute brilliance I was incapable of, the promotions guy with us shouted, “Hey Mr. Vice President! Come shake our hands (and then even louder) We’re not like Dan Rather, honest!”

    Time slowed, the Vice President turned, the baby grinned, and Vice President George Bush walked away from the throng of KTUL staff waiting next to the studio door to patiently chat with the three of us and shake our hands.

    I left KTUL soon thereafter to work in national news. Visits to the White House became a regular but infrequent part of my job. I met Marlin Fitzwater. I called my father on his birthday from the White House Press Room (Hey Dad, This is the White House calling!), watched press briefings and witnessed President Bush pardon the TOTUS before Thanksgiving. I eventually worked for CBS and in a remote fashion with Rather. But I never chatted again with a President like I did that summer afternoon in Tulsa.

  14. Kip’s was at 1600 E 11th St. There was a Neal’s Restaurant at 1611. That’s the closest I could find in the 1969 Polk Directory

  15. Howdy
    Anyone recollect a western motif, old standby steak house on 11th – possibly diagonally across from Kip’s and on the north side of the street? Seemed it had been there forever in the 60’s when I last was in.
    It was kind of a low-slung place with a dark interior and smelled really good. My impression was that it was an honest cattleman’s kind a establishment. Ring a bell for anyone? I’m trying to find the name of the place.

  16. I have dyslexia of amusement parks, I guess. Since both parks were open when I was a kid, I guess I transposed them in my mind. I stand corrected…
    So, same story different name… I stand by the rest, for now.

  17. I remember the very last time my family went to Lakeview Amusement Park in Jenks. It would’ve been 1966-67 time frame. My dad and his best friend would occasionally take both families in a car trip there, even though in those days it seemed in another country from the east Tulsa neighborhood I grew up in…
    The swimming area there was massive! There was a wooden platform kind of in the middle of the water, and we kids would all swim out there and play king of the castle till we could take refuse on the island. From the island you could watch all the rides, like the big roller coaster or the tilt a whirl. The swimming area also had a pretty big sandy beach area where we’d all play in the sand till we were covered.
    If you look on Google earth you can still see the lake, the parking lot and main concession area and the remains from some of the rides that sat unused for so long. It’s on 121st South and almost Elwood. Just look for the large lake on the south side of the road and you’ll soon see the remains…

  18. I was lucky enough when I was a child to be on two of the local children’s tv shows of that time, Big Bill and Oomagah, and Mr. Zing and Tuffy. I couldn’t have been more than 5 or 6 when I was on the Oomagah show with my sister. Seeing that massive shiny gray robot was almost too much for my small brain to cope with. My sister got to participate on the show by drawing the magic squiggle; where a child would make a mark and the resident artist would finish it. As I recall, my sisters squiggle turned out to be a swan. The old KVOO studio on Peoria seemed so massive and jam packed with running children.
    I was on Mr Zing for my 10th birthday in 1968. When it came time for all the kids to say their names and ages for Mr Zing, when he came by where we sat, for some reason I told him I was 27! To this day, I have no idea why. While we were live on television, I noticed that I could see myself in the monitors they had placed by the mom’s area. I then took particular glee at making faces and stomping my orthopedic shoe wearing feet. Needless to say, my mom was not impressed and corrective action taken. It was the ’60’s after all.

    I just reminded myself of another childhood crazy memory. My sister took me with her and a Girl Scout friend of hers one Saturday morning when they went to see a movie. The movie? Bonnie and Clyde… I was 9 in 1967 and my sister was 12. At that time there were no movies to compare with the graphic realism of that film. I had NO idea what movie we were going to see, and I’d never seen anything remotely like the movie we saw that day. So, when the movie started and then rapidly picked up speed, so to speak, I was trapped between crying, hiding or watching, and I chose the latter. I’ve never looked at movies the same way since… As I remember, we saw the move at the old Circle theater in Tulsa. That is also the movie theater that always had the Disney films when I was little, Like Bambi and Sword in the Stone.

  19. KTBA brought fond memories of this moronic youth sneaking an FM radio (then a real rarity) and listening in with my cousins late at night, back in a time called 1970. The first time I heard “Down by the River ” was on KTBA, nobody else would play it yet.
    Thanks for the memories.

    Here’s my addition; My dad’s best friend back in the late 50’s through the 1960’s was the chief engineer at KAKC. Sometimes I’d get to tag along at the studio on the second floor of the old Trade Winds on Peoria. It seemed like Hollywood to this guy. I’ll add that I used to have all the DJ’s autographs too. My folks ran Van’s Hamburgers (now Clauds) so I was a child of the restless ribbon, then known.

  20. RE: Jack Morris moving to Ch-2. I believe it had to do with politics. Jack was becoming rather political in his comments. Apparently, he was given more freedom to express his views at Ch-2.

  21. My Dad was a radio announcer for KVOO in the 60’s, his name is Donald Dean Gilbert, could you please put him on the proper list? He is 90 years old now living in Huntsville Tx. And would love it if you could, thanks, Donella Gilbert

  22. Wilhelm Murg interviews Sherman Oaks (aka Jim Millaway): Live on Facebook at about 7:30 pm, Friday, 8/24/2018! See TTM Facebook for link to Wilhelm’s page.

  23. Hello…? Anybody there?
    For those of us who eschew Facebook and may have missed the news, OKPOP released a rendering of what the museum is expected to look like a couple of weeks back:


    What a cool project. I wish them success.

  24. Just to clear up a comment made by Jim Ruddle.
    Bill Newport was my uncle. Billy was a lovely boy.
    He was mentally challenged. Dad adored his son!
    Thank you, Terre Nelson

    • Sorry about that, Terre. I’m sure Jim didn’t know the back story, nor did he name names. I just happened to have found a postcard image on eBay at some point that seemed to fit. Less-than-professional acting has always been a staple of local television advertising, and still is.

      Every so often, we get a reminder that there is often more than what meets the eye or ear.

      Bill Newport Motor Co. postcard

  25. I wonder what prompted JACK MORRIS to switch from KTUL-TV to KVOO-TV in 1970?

  26. the Chocolate Cowboy was a regular entertainer at Holiday Inn Downtown in the early to mid 1960’s. My mom was part of the Innkeeping staff, she handled the food and Beverage part of the Hotel. I was a little girl at the time and we lived in the hotel.I was rarely supervised. I remember cowboy so well and he was wonderful to me. When I first met him, as a small girl (maybe 4 or 5 yrs. old) in an effort to be respectful, I called him Mr. Chocolate. this happened several times, until one evening, he kindly told me, Robin, you can just call me Cowboy. I used to sneak into the club and hide near the kitchen doors to hear him play.

  27. Looking for an old OTASCO commercial for brunswick tires that shows a guy in an old Chevrolet touring car….If you can help email 23ford@cox.net..Thank You

  28. I had an argument with an old friend of mine about where a TG&Y was located in Tulsa during the early 70’s. I remember a Safeway store & a TG&Y store next to it at 61st & Sheridan. My friend said the TG&Y was at 51st & Sheridan. Does anyone have a picture of 61st & Sheridan during the early 70’s they can post.

  29. We’re currently working on an exhibit about the history of Tulsa TV & Radio at the Tulsa Historical Society & Museum. This website has always been such a great resource and so I know you all can help with this project in a few ways.

    #1 – We have a Memories Survey that we use to help collect information for exhibits. Our current one is about Tulsa TV & Radio. What better group to ask than this one. We know you have great stories to share because we’ve seen them here! Here’s the link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/TVMemories

    #2 – So many of you have great pieces of Tulsa history that you have posted here. If you have photos or objects related to TV or radio history and would be willing to share them with the community during the exhibit by loaning them to the museum please let me know (mbrown@tulsahistory.org).

    #3 – Come check out the exhibit in May to see some of your favorite characters from the past. I’ll post again when it’s open and ready for visitors.

    Thanks for your help!

    Maggie Brown
    Tulsa Historical Society & Museum

  30. In reference to the old Mr B sign, i agree that the sign in Choteau is the very same sign. I grew up in Tulsa and graduated from Hale in 1976. When I was a small child my parents would take my sister and me there. I remember the lighting there all seemed yellow, annd the place was always very crowded with teenagers hanging out.
    Another recent post mentioned Sleepy Hollow Restaurant on S. Lewis. I happened to work for a construction company while I was in high school that converted the old house into a restaurant, and later enlarged the kitchen and dining area. I loved to eat there because it was a “home style” place and all the food was served in big heaping bowls, family style.
    Another post mentioned Peppe’s Via Capri restaurant on the hill on S. Sheridan. I used to take dates there in high school for meals I’d only read about before. I loved their cheese dip and breadsticks.
    Another favorite date place was called The Prime Rib, it was located on S. Lewis, about 3 blocks south of Sleepy Hollow. I’d never seen a prime rib till I went there, and fell in love.
    Incidentally, my parents owned a popular burger joint on S. Peoria called Van’s Hamburgers. It is now Clauds Hamburgers. In fact, Lee Woodward used to occasionally eat at our place, and I one met his brother Morgan Woodward, the masterful character actor when he was in town.
    My last food memory today is Antone’s Deli (later known as Cedars Import Co,) This wonderful place was in my neighborhood growing up, and they actually had chocolate dipped ants for sale. My friends and I finally worked up our courage one day and bought a package, but were discouraged when they actually tasted good… I loved their Po Boy sandwiches (green and red tags) and ate them often. Actually, my wife and I drove back to Tulsa to eat a Po Boy one more time, when we heard they were closing after 40 years. Drats!

  31. Rhys Martin talks about old Tulsa Restaurants … i used to work at the Sleepy Hollow – a sit-down chicken and gravy place at 65th and Lewis, across the street from the Shamrock gas station [this when Lewis was but a two-lane road] … also went many times to Casa Bonita at 21st and Sheridan, which closed, then opened again – i was lucky enough to catch that opening on day three…then closed yet again…on another note, I am listening to the late Hal O’Halleran and Jerry Vaughn doing their play-by-play of ORU Titan basketball on KRMG from the first meeting between them and TU at the Fairgrounds Pavilion through their NCAA Tournament play, playing Syracuse at Denton, TX, to back at Mabee Center against Louisville and Kansas … great stuff and brings back so many good memories…i did a reel-to-reel tape of these broadcasts – so glad i did … good interviews with J. Pascal Twiman of TU, then Mayor Robert LaFortune, who, I believe is still alive in his 90’s, Gale Sayers and a few others…

  32. Does anyone have information on the Blue Moon nightclub where many of us in the ’50s went to dance, listen to bands (including Gene Krupa, once)? I think it was near the city limits, had a wooden deck with lights strung around the perimeter. Any thoughts?

  33. Many thanks to all that have posted here over the years — I’m researching a book on Lost Tulsa Restaurants and a lot of your discussions have helped me find great information at the Tulsa City-County Library, Tulsa Historical Society, and with people close to the operations of some real iconic places.

    In my research, I’ve found something interesting. Boots Drive-In once sat at 17th and Sheridan; I haven’t found a LOT about it, but I did find a photo of the sign. I think it’s the same sign that stands in Chouteau today at a (closed) place called Mr. B’s. Furthermore, several people that cruised the Boots referred to the owner, Basil, as Mr. B. It seems like too much of a coincidence.

    Here’s a comparison photo for you to ponder: https://i.imgur.com/ZlVYQCO.jpg

  34. The NEWS GUYS car was a Packard super 8 touring car. The car was delivered to my dad at his garage on Admiral in boxes and Peach crates and he spent many hours putting it back in running order for Jimmie Leake.
    Dad also restored cars for T.L. Osborn, C. Wright Hooper Bob Orterberger and others, V8 V12 V16

  35. Hey, at this moment 9:35 pm, Gary Chew is broadcasting/streaming a music tribute to George Gershwin on KDRT in Davis, California. For the stream go to kdrt.org The show lasts until 11pm CDT, Tulsans everywhere. Posted Saturday evening 9-30-17.

  36. There is an interesting facebook (Forgive me all) discussion going on that was started by Price Wooldridge, who was a producer for OETA out of Oklahoma city regarding the changes over the years and lamenting some of the losses due to technology. There are a few names that may ring as familiar, and at least a mention of KVOO by one of the responders. Its too good of a discussion to not mention here.

    Here is the link:


    Incidentally, Mike, I have tried to get in touch with you without success. . .

  37. Was the German restaurant Paul William Smart asking about Helmut’s Alpine Kitchen where Village Inn is now around 27th & Harvard. Also, Bob & Ginny Lazzaro and other family members owned an Italian restaurant somewhere in Tulsa…maybe in 50s? Is Lazzaro part of their family? I grew up across the street from them.

  38. Just caught up with this sad news. I just loved King Lionel and Prince Woodward. What a fine, talented and funny person he was.

  39. On the Lee Woodward pages, there are a number of RealVideo and RealAudio clips (pre-YouTube era). They can be played with the free, open source VLC Media Player. More about it and a download link on this TTM page: RealPlayer note.

  40. But to the point – don’t remember if there was an earlier incarnation of the building that was Impressions during the time we are discussing. Seemed like new construction to me.

    Private residences marched along 15th far longer than the odds seemed – even to my eyes in the early/mid-70’s. 15th was my stomping grounds. That corner might have been a bold jump into commercial from private home(s) for the Impressions build. Don’t know. I’d like to know the answer too.

    What is on that corner now shocks my memories almost as much as what now can be found at the north-east corner of 11th & Yale. Ouch.

  41. “Impressions was at 21st & Lewis. What was it before that? TTM comment: “The building had a real 70s southern California look to it with round windows looking out on neat gardens…” ”

    Impressions was on the north-east corner of 15th and Lewis rather than 21st. Across from the Delman and Massad’s. Did indeed have a Cali feel to it, although I mostly saw the bar upstairs. Was owned by a nice feller named Tom Butcher. His wife/girlfriend was killed tragically in an automobile accident on Christmas morning, as I recall, and I think the restaurant closed the doors not too awfully long afterward.

  42. Does anyone remember the Go Go club name owned by Jerry Ray? I think one was the Valiha and Mcgoos ?

  43. Der Weinerschnitzel?
    Anyone remember Sandy’s, that seemed to have a Scottish theme?
    One Saturday morning Sandy’s held a Pass, Dribble and Shoot contest in their parking lot.
    I kept that medal for years!

  44. Hi, I’m trying to remember the name of a German food restaurant located in midtown back in the late 70’s…early 80’s. Maybe around 21st and Lewis area? 🙂

    • Impressions was at 21st & Lewis. What was it before that? TTM comment: “The building had a real 70s southern California look to it with round windows looking out on neat gardens…”

  45. Just in case anyone else is interested, my question was answered this morning at a men’s Bible study I attend. In a forehead slapping moment, I thought to ask one of the older guys who has lived in Tulsa 70-something years about the location of Rock Crusher. His answer? Pine and 145th East Avenue. It was interesting during my search for information, though, to read online about all the quarries and coal mines that used to be around Tulsa. I had no idea that there were so many.

    • I know my dad worked at a rock quarry in that area in the 1940s. I don’t know if there were any others around there.

  46. Would you mind, Mike, if I used your forum to see if I could get an answer to a question my stepson has? He has told me many times over the years about going to swim with his mom, aunt and cousins at a place they called Rock Crusher. Sounds to me like it must have been a local quarry. He doesn’t recall exactly when, but he tells about a time they went and he would have drowned if not for his mother pulling him up by his hair. His question is…where was this place? Anyone remember? Rock Crusher seems to be a very generic name. Was that maybe just what their family called it? I’m counting on the old timers here (who still have their memories!) for an answer. Thanks, Mike.

  47. Photo from a parade in Tulsa, April 1975. KOTV float castle with Lee Woodward and Lionel.

    Dr. George Lemaster, former KOTV engineer.

  48. My parents, their church singing groups, and friends were on the John Chick show several times when I was a kid. Did any of the tapes of the shows survive? I’d love to get my hands on them, as I’ve never seen the footage. I was a baby when they did most of their performing, and they are all getting older these days . . . .

    • Kristi, sad old story, they kept no archive of these tapes (probably reused on a daily or weekly basis), though some clips can be seen online. Very sorry about that.

  49. Lost Tulsa asks: “Can anyone confirm if OTASCO was originally located inside Sheridan Village, before the Annex?”

    I don’t remember it being in the main Sheridan Village with Crown Drug, J C Penney, etc. Anyone else recall?

  50. I lived in Tulsa back in the 70s and 80s and listened to radio while at work and TV at home. I believe it was KAKC am 1300 or 1100 that played oldies. It went off the air at 6pm and played a musical montage of old TV theme songs like The Munsters, etc. I had worn out the tape-pre digital age- and am trying to find a copy of it. Any help would be appreciated.

    Many fond memories of concerts there, on the floating river stage, ZZ Top and 38 special, the Old Lady on Brady, Labor Day float parades and hanging at Keystone dam partying. Lot-A-Burger in Broken Arrow, Willies #3 in Sand Springs..so much.

    Everything coming on an hour earlier than the coast. Friday the 13th TV series and George Romero’s Tales From the Darkside. The smell of fresh bread from the bakery..Hero’s sandwich shop on Admiral and Sheridan..so much.

    Hey, thanks for letting me ramble down memory lane.


  51. I ran across a blog about Tulsa Coffee Houses and couldn’t resist adding a few of my experiences at St. Michael’s Alley.

    In 1966 at the barely legal age of 21 [I could legally serve beer] I became a part time night manager at what my soon to be father-in-law incorrectly referred to as a “teenage speakeasy”. I worked at St. Michael’s Alley for Dick Greenwood who purchased St. Mike’s from Cy Kelley.

    Big Jim Hardy was the “cranky” Marine Corp chef and latter day barista who was tougher than a Ponderosa sirloin and absolutely outstanding at his job.

    We had the best jukebox music and the greatest bunch of guys on the night waiter staff, most of whom were either attending college or working St. Mike’s as a second job.

    One young man who waited tables during the summer was Mike Mimms who played college basketball at Central State in Edmond [now U of Central Oklahoma] and went on to coach college basketball.

    Another memorable young man was Butch Hibbs who worked hard, played hard, fought hard and routinely referred to me as Gramps [I was his boss and 3 years older].

    On weekends, St. Michael’s was a mandatory pilgrimage site for many a Friday and Saturday night dates. We could only seat and serve about 30-40 people at a time and it was not uncommon for the true diehards to crowd the entryway and even wait outside the door until a booth or table became available.

    If memory serves me correctly [and I think it rarely does], the house specialties were: Hot Pastrami on Rye, Charcoal Chili Cheeseburgers, Cheesburgers, and The Beefeater. Favored drinks included Strawberry-Orange Slings, various fruit Frappes, a long list of Espresso coffees and Schlitz Light and Dark Beers on tap.

    The house music was often The Kingston Trio’s “Scotch and Soda” and “Tom Dooley”, Ramsey Lewis Trio’s “The In Crowd”, “Lara’s Theme” from Dr. Zhivago, and anything performed by Andy Williams.

    It turned out to be a magic place Cy Kelley designed, or rather copied, after he spent over a year working at Ye Olde St. Michael’s Alley in London. I was told the massive dark oak booths and tables were identical to the booths and tables in St. Michael’s Alley in London.

    My connections to Cy and ultimately Dick Greenwood were through my father, who owned a local bakery [Donut Hole Bakery] and provided some of the bread, rolls and pastries served at St. Mike’s, and my two older brothers [one of whom was a fraternity brother of Cy’s and the other a Tulsa policeman who worked nights in the sector that included Ranch Acres Shopping Center and was a friend of Dick Greenwood].

    I didn’t last long as a night manager because I quickly learned the restaurant/coffee house business is hard work and college was easier. I was also somewhat concerned about becoming tomorrow’s Tulsa World headline since I sometime had to drive the end of day receipts to a bank to make a night deposit, thus momentarily becoming a worthwhile target of opportunity.

    Nevertheless, after reading previous blogs and thinking about my hours spent at St. Michael’s Alley it has brought back many, many great memories of one of the first and best of Tulsa coffee houses.

  52. (From Jim Hartz via email)

    I got word recently that one of my oldest and best friends had died. Bill Hyden.

    Bill Hyden, 1964 (Courtesy of Jim Hartz)

    To Tulsans above a certain age he was also known as a friend, albeit that friendship was a bond formed across the airwaves, first on radio at KRMG and KVOO, then over TV at Channel 2 then Channel 6, which is where he and I got to know each other and worked together for several years back in the 1960s. See what I mean about needing to be a certain age.

    Bill started off with a wonderful tenor singing voice that drifted to baritone when he spoke. Blessed with an open, agreeable face, people naturally trusted him. He started in TV as a weatherman but is best known in Tulsa as a newscaster on KOTV.

    We played a lot of golf together with a few other pals, usually at daybreak followed by a full day covering news that ended at 10:30 at night. Either one of us could have been a pretty good golfer if we had taken a lesson but in our crowd that might have been regarded as cheating.

    I’d like to think that it was all that exercise (mainly chasing errant hooks and slices at LaFortune) that gave Bill such a long life (he was 93 when he died), but something else might have been more important. As long as I knew him Bill never complained about what life threw at him and he seldom had a critical word for anyone. By the same token I don’t think Bill ever had an enemy. I guess I should say he had no personal enemies; he did have one big one in his younger days, which brings me to the most remarkable trait I know about Bill Hyden. It was his innate modesty, especially about his life before Tulsa radio and TV.

    It wasn’t until I had known him for about 30 years that he casually mentioned one day that he had piloted unarmed C-47s in WW II, hauling paratroopers and pulling troop gliders from England into French and German battle zones. He’d never say it, but that was a job for real heroes. The airmen you always hear about in wartime are the ones who flew fighter planes and bombers. Bill flew planes with no guns nicknamed “Gooney Birds” that had a top speed of only 160 mph. And he flew them through the same anti-aircraft fire as fighters and bombers. But his job was to get GIs into the hot spots, sometimes in the middle of firefights, then get himself, his crew and plane back safely. He did that over and over. There was an unwritten code such guys operated on – they didn’t talk about it much afterward.

    Bill Hyden, indeed, was one of The Greatest Generation. There a lot of other nice things about his life in a Tulsa World obituary.

    Jim Hartz

  53. Stevie Fernandez interviewed me about this website for his program, “Explore Tulsa“.

    My 15 minutes of fame has been unjustly extended once again.

    Watch it here:

    I can’t believe I said the word “stuff” five times in about 15 seconds. 🙁

    If I do about a dozen more interviews, I’m bound to eventually get it right!

  54. Happy New Year All!
    Sure am glad I’m not a celebrity.
    I might not have survived 2016.

  55. Our school went to Skyline Amusement park I believe in 1964. East Central High School 9th grade class Tulsa. A student, male was missing when it was time to get on the bus and leave and we stayed over and the chaperones and students stayed an hour longer looking for him. This was around 10:00 pm. We finally had to return to High School and the next day we found out that they found him in the lake and he drowned. Forgot the students name but it was a bittersweet ending to a fun night.

  56. I have a comment on Christina’s International.

    I myself am a product of Christina’s International myself.

    I got married in 1997 to a wonderful beautiful woman who has blessed my presents ever since. We have 3 children together and they are smart and well adjusted. I am not the only success story from the group, there are many. There were hundreds of people get married though Christina’s.

    Just like any group of people, there were many divorces as well. There were folks out there wanting to get married that had ideas that they could control the woman from Christina’s.

    One thing I can tell you from experience is the men and woman from South America are no different than any other part of the world. There have desires and dreams just like Americans. Sure they put their own twist on it. No different than anybody coming from another country. What they have on natural born Americans is that they have a clue how it is to live somewhere they have limited opportunities. Places where if you have a different skewed opinion of the government just might get you killed. They appreciate real freedom for what it is here and are willing to do what it takes to be successful no matter what the circumstances are.

    Saying all that. It was Wayne and Jane Ford who started it in Tulsa. Jane being from Peru was how it all got started. They named the business Christina’s International from their oldest daughter name. Wayne and Jane now live in Florida where they Still do the same thing under a different name.

    I for one will be eternally grateful for what they helped me accomplish.

    • Michael, thanks for the enlightening and heartfelt comments. I have linked back to the original Christina’s page on this site, and will add your comments as a coda to it.

  57. @ Gary. Very sad to learn of the death of our old friend and colleague. Here are more details from the World’s Obit.

    Harold Mayfield Balch, Jr.
    By Staff Reports posted 1 week ago November 17th, 2016

    Harold Mayfield Balch, Jr., 71, of Tulsa, Oklahoma passed away peacefully on Monday, November 14, 2016. He was born, March 22, 1945 to the late Juhree and Harold M. Balch. He was married for 32 years to Katherine Jill Balch. He will be forever remembered for his style, creativity, kindness, and compassion for others.

    Hal attended Edison High School in Tulsa and Suffield Academy in Suffield, Connecticut. While attending the University of Tulsa, Hal was recruited to a news team at Griffin-Leake Television’s KTUL-TV. He subsequently joined the public relations department at the headquarters of the U.S. Junior Chamber of Commerce. Where he led national outreach projects benefiting the U.S. Olympic Committee and the President’s Council of Physical Fitness. Inspired by his work in public relations and a deep interest in healthcare, Hal then devoted his professional life to enhancing communication among healthcare professionals and to improving the connectedness with the patients they serve. In 1970, Hal along with two partners and close friends founded Creative Specialists Incorporated (CSI) to provide communications and production services to healthcare organizations, physicians, and foundations. CSI went on to develop groundbreaking educational content and teaching programs on newborn special care, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), coronary artery bypass, Hepatitis B, and improved hospital emergency care. Hal’s relationships with colleagues around the country often resulted in enduring friendships – a quality for which he was well known.

    Hal was a member of Trinity Episcopal Church and served in a nursing home and Eucharistic ministry for over 15 years. He continued his devoted service well after his illness challenged his ability to do so. He was also a longtime and committed member of the Tulsa Tennis Club where he served as president in 2000 and 2001. Hal was deeply grateful for the love and support of those who cared for him and who became part of the extended family, and for the exemplary healthcare professionals of the University of Oklahoma Medical School, Hillcrest Medical Center, Cura Hospice, and the Mayo Clinic.

    Hal is survived by his wife, Jill Balch; daughter, Ashley MacKenna and her children, Elizabeth, Patrick “Mack” and Mary Katherine; son and daughter-in-law, Jonathan and Candace Balch and their children, Caroline and Harrison. Other family members include cousins, Robert Balch, Sharon and Jerry Sneddon of Tulsa and Sally Johnson (wife of the late Doug Johnson) of Leawood, Kansas.

    A funeral service will be held 11:00 a.m. Friday, November 18, 2016 at Trinity Episcopal Church, 501 S. Cincinnati Ave., Tulsa, OK. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to the ALS Association or Trinity Episcopal Church.
    Ninde Funeral Directors, Brookside Chapel (918) 742-5556 http://www.ninde.com


  58. Message to Mike Miller in Florida. Please send me anything you have on Hal’s passing. I was just thinking about him yesterday. Such a nice, thorough guy he was. Had some great times with him, you and Gregory. Happy Turkey Time, Man. -gc

  59. Haven’t kept up with your fine blogs for awhile. Last year in June I was at the Los Angeles Ace Hotel debut of Leon’s “A Poem Is A Naked Person”. Afterward, there was a Q & A with Leon, T-Bone Burnett (those two had wonderful rapport), the son of director Les Blank, and another woman present for filming in 1974. (attached, a photo taken that night)

    I want my own copy of that film. Over the credits, Willis Alan Ramsey sings a great song I’d never heard about swimming naked in a lake (isn’t available except in this film as far as I know). And the version of “I’m So Lonesome I Could Cry” Leon does is magnificent. There’s also a scene of a building being demolished that I think was in Tulsa (can anyone confirm?), and I think I was there at age 16. Lots of Tulsa shots in it – also much footage from Leon’s house on Grand Lake where our family vacationed for like… 10 years running. Includes shots of Nathan Edward Galloway’s totem pole which we often visited on our way up to Grand Lake. etc. So long Leon…

  60. Was a great show. The rasp worked for me, in a Dark Horse sort of way.
    Our own Mr. Ransom’s camera work.

    Wish I could make the Mabee Center memorial on Sunday.

  61. It has been a while since I checked in here. Very happy to see TTVM still going strong.

    With the passing of Brother Leon, I was reminded of my first ever rock concert which just happened to be the 1974 George Harrison and Friends tour stop in Tulsa at the Civic Center, which is now, of course, the Cox Business Center.

    The show received a lot of bad press because George’s voice was pretty much shot, but to a 13 year old Tulsa boy, it was the thrill of a lifetime, even more so because local hero Leon Russell came out on stage to reprise some of his historic work he did with George during the Concert for Bangladesh.

    I have searched youTube and the only footage I could find was this silent clip.


  62. Sad to report of old colleague, Hal Balch, has died. Worked with Hal at KELi in the 60s and he, Gary Chew, Bob Gregory and I became close friends for many years. He later formed his own company.

    I don’t have any details. Please add more information if anyone has some.

  63. We lost our hometown boy, Leon Russell, on Sunday.

    Besides his stellar solo career, he played on an incredible number of hit records as part of The Wrecking Crew.

    Here is the story of his surprise appearance on the Mazeppa show (I was sure surprised and amazed):

    And a shot of his 1971 Oiler Park show (my first rock concert, and that’s my ticket in the pic):

    RIP Leon. We’ll never forget you.

  64. Heard here first, thanks to Mitch.

    First recognized taste: April 21st, 1970, Old Lady on Brady.

    RIP indeed.

  65. You may end up hating me for this Mike, but you should really see some of the material I have culled from the State Historical society. . . Lets start with that Ad for Fantastic Theatre.

    This ad is from 10 Nov 67. From a STILLWATER paper. ” Panic in the Year Zero” AND Boris Karloff as Frankenstein!

  66. For Wesley Horton: That list of private-club licenses for 1969 I just posted about did indeed include the Rubiot at 6740 S. Peoria.

  67. For the liquor-by-the-wink file: I found this on the Tulsa Library Digital Collection site. It’s a January 3, 1969, article from the Tulsa Tribune, listing all the private clubs had been granted for city licenses for that year, with their addresses. The list includes country clubs (like Southern Hills), fraternal organizations (like the Elks Lodge and the American Legion), professional clubs (like the Tulsa Press Club and the Petroleum Club), downtown clubs (like the Tulsa Club and the Summit Club), the Rubiot, the Red Garter (in the Camelot Hotel), the Cognito Inn, and even the House of Blue Lights (1616 N. Sheridan).


  68. Howdy friends, Steve Clem here, author of the book on KAKC radio and alum of Tulsa radio stations like KRAV, KGTO, KRMG, Lite 106 and KQMJ/Magic 99. The latter is where I began my long friendship with Tulsa radio legend Scooter Segraves.

    I have been trying to find information about my old radio friend, Fred Campbell, formerly of KRMG, KXXO and probably other Tulsa stations. Fred hosted KRMG’s “Nightline” in the early 1980’s, among many other things. I lost track of Fred when I moved from Tulsa in 1989. Upon my return in 2009, I heard that Mr. Campbell is deceased, but have not been able to find an obit or any other information.


  69. Had a little outage on the two blogs due to a bad WordPress plugin update. Got into cPanel at TTM’s host and renamed the plugin’s folder. Back to normal now. Notified the developer.

    (Later) The developer emailed me from Morocco that the problem might be with running an older version of PHP. I checked with the host, directNIC, and they moved the site to a different server with more current versions of PHP. Not only did this make the plugin work, but the site is now noticeably faster.

  70. Can somebody tell me who was the anchor on the Channel 4 news on WNBC New York on the 11Pm news before Jim Hartz. Did Hartz start doing the 11pm news in New York in 1964 or 1966?

    Did channel 5 Metromedia in New York have a meteorologist back in the days when Bill Jorgensen did the News from 1967 coming forward. George Sharman later did the news with him and Rona Barrett was in Hollywood

  71. Interesting, yet tangential item. The year 1957, Newly introduced and new fangled concept called “HiFi” Get the lowdown here:

  72. Mike,

    I have always held a bit of fascination for some of the Tulsa venues that TTM remembers. Reading about them, has at times, made me wish I were in Tulsa during the early 60’s.

    As you know, my historical research has always been primarily geared towards Drive-in theaters. . Now that I am back in the city for a while, I have opportunity to spend an occasional afternoon at the Oklahoma History center, which of course has a vast collection of Oklahoma materials, including microfilm of newspapers, city directories and old phone books for Tulsa. .

    I recently got curious about the infamous but ever popular Rubiot coffee house. . I spent a bit of time poking around and discovered a few interesting points.

    The Rubiot apparently was only principally open at one location at a time. . The 51st street location was open and listed in the Oct 62 phone book. . the 6740 Peoria location was first listed in the Oct 63 phone book and the 51st location was not listed. .

    Sadly, the 6740 Peoria location was only open from 63 to sometime in 66, as it was last listed in the Oct 66 book. . The next year 67, there was no listing at the 6740 address or Rubiot. . The Oct 68 listed the “Rubi” . . .

    So it appears the Rubiot on peoria was only open for about 3 years, 63 to 66. . What a waste that must have been as it looks like the owner had invested some money in building the location. .

    After tracking down the exact location today, it is an empty lot just south of the Lincoln Glen apartments. The parking lot entrance was on the West side of Peoria just opposite of where 68th street intersects, and the building was actually North of the location.

    IIRC, I had sent a aerial from 67 that showed where it sat. . Sad to say, no trace remains today. . it is indeed a Tulsa Memory. . .

  73. Mark Roe asked about Sound Warehouse back in October… I had started to answer a few months back, but something happened and I lost the post before I hit enter and did not have time to redo the post…

    Here are a few highlights.

    10/18/81 Sound Warehouse sets its sights on video:


    10/18/85 Sound Warehouse to expand:


    10/16/85 Sound Warehouse confirms closure of local center:


    12/6/89 Ex player arrested in larceny probe:


    14 Dec 1990 Sound Warehouse: meeting the needs of customers:


    12/26/90 4 alarm fire guts warehouse:


    11/29/94 Blockbuster to convert music stores:


  74. I’m rather surprised to see that no one has mentioned a wonderful person, Keith Bretz, whose obit was in yesterday’s World. Keith was program director at KRMG when I worked there as announcer in 1956 and 1957. He made working there a fun, rewarding experience. He was as good a boss as he was a fine human being.

    By the way, I’m back from having a near-death experience in September. Although I’m still in a wheel chair, I’ve made a marvelous recovery from the time my wife was told, “There is nothing more we can do for him.”


    I don’t know if there is the story in the archives, but, Richard Wilson, one of the infamous cameramen/photographers at channel 8 at the time was the first one on the scene; the funny thing was our dad was the (execs you might say) Vice President of the Shoe Co. that was in Froug’s at the time. . . . Ricco had one of his station buds call the house; well mom and dad was worried Richard had been kidnapped because it wasn’t him on the phone . . lol; anyway if Ricco is still on here . . .I would like to return to yesteryear and here his rendition of the story; if we all know Richard . . .he will tell a grand one . .thank you
    Alive and well in Afghanistan

  76. Tulsa Green Rooster club, better known as the Factory club, was located at 6800 S Lewis in Tulsa, and owned by Jake Loggins. It was on a 20 acre parcel of land and built in late 1967.

    Jake Loggins was the General Contractor on this building. This is per courthouse records.

    It was a teen club and you had to buy a membership to join. If memory serves me right, it was $12.00 per month.

    It brought in top 40 bands just like Bandstand. B.J. Thomas did play on Dec 31, 1969. Same year, Three Dog Night played there.

    Club did not go out of business, but burned down due to arson.

  77. Tulsa guitar teacher Dick Gordon Sr. got us a spot on KOTV’s Saturday Kids Karnival in the early 1950s. We were Carter Brown and Phil Lassiter, Tulsa kids and Dick Gordon students, we played two country and western songs, we were about age 12. Carter sang and played acoustic guitar and I played the electric steel guitar. I just remember how hot the studio lights were. The peanut gallery dutifully cheered our act.

  78. Don’t forget Rosie at Looboyle’s who could expertly repair your fishing reel while you shopped! Zebco was actually Zero Bomb Company during WW2. Retooled to fishing products after the war.

  79. How nice to hear about the off-camera Joe Krieger and Looboyle’s of yore.

    The 11th Street location and the South Roads incarnation were familiar haunts in my youth.

    Bought my first flyrod – still my favorite – without any real notion how to use it.

    Many, many bluegill and small large-mouth bass later, it led me to where the Tulsa roots re-established – Western Montana. That has a lot to do with Joe and Looboyle’s.

    Thanks for the story.

  80. My youngest son and his wife are looking at buying a house in Tulsa very close to where Joe and Agnes Krieger lived for many years.

    This brought back a flood of fond memories when I was a 19 year old wannabe. I went to work for Joe at Looboyle’s on 11th St. on April 24, 1963. This proved to be one of the most memorable experiences anyone could have in their life.

    I not only met a great man, but his family became my family.Agnes always treated me as one of the family along with Joanne, Jeannie, Julie, Little Joe , Steve and Jann. I worked for Joe full-time and part-time for 8 years while I was going to college.

    Never in my 72 years will I forget our hunting and fishing shows together. When Little Joe died, I saw the change that made Joe quit doing hunting shows forever. In 1972, I had the opportunity to introduce Wanda Scott to what we sold at Looboyle. The rest is history.

    I read somewhere that when we experience the death of a person that we have been close to that perhaps a small part of us dies as well. Such is the memory of the Krieger family that will stay with me to eternity.

  81. I am looking for information on defunct record store Sound Warehouse. I have only found brief mentions of it on this site. If anyone can direct me to any in-depth discussions of the store on TTM or has any information about the company, I would be grateful. To Mike: hope you are doing well. It has been way too long since I have checked in but plan on visiting more often.

    • Thanks, Mark. Good to hear from you. A high school classmate of mine worked there. I hope to get you hooked up to some info shortly.

  82. Construction on the Forum Twin began in 1974 along with the Forum Mall (later the Sooner mall) and a small strip center to the East anchored by a new 7-11. These projects were my first commercial electrical jobs with now defunct Current Electric Co. Charles Burris Construction was the general contractor.

  83. John, the one on 21st you remember might have been the Forum Twin. It was on 21st a bit East of Garnett. I worked there for several years. It is sad to see it (any many of the others) closed.

  84. I first moved to Tulsa in August of ’76 and lived there for 3 years. I am amazed at the number of movie theaters that existed at that time that have closed. I didn’t make much money at that time and my wife and I used to hit a lot of matinees on Saturday afternoon so we went to so many of those small theaters. I remember one in a shopping center that I believe was on 21st east of Memorial but it seems to have disappeared. I also recall going to a TG&Y store south of 11th maybe on Delaware or Lewis? So many things have been torn down and built over or repurposed since those days.

  85. I haven’t seen this here yet, so apologies if I missed it somehow (the latest post I can see in this GroupBlog is from August 9).

    Harry Volkman died August 20. A Google search on him gives hits with such phrases as “one of the giants of meteorology and Chicago broadcasting,” “legendary,” “beloved,” “pioneer.”

    To repeat Mike Bruchas’s words, “He was Tulsa’s FIRST weatherman on KOTV and later WKY-TV’s second in OKC, Then KWTV hired him from WKY-TV. Fast forward to a near 50 year series of gigs at stations in Chicago.”

    • David, thank you for letting us know the sad news about Harry Volkman. All our condolences to his family and friends. I met him in 1999, and found him sharp and funny.

  86. I remember Frank, as he played for awhile with drummer Jim Perry’s band. He was a serious musician and a mellow guy, but not someone to be “messed with” as I recall. Playing in Vinita one night at a community center, some *()$&$% redneck bullies were harassing the band. A mutual friend, Kirk Felton, was attacked in the restroom. One of them also threatened me, as I was a friend of the band. During a break one of them went after Frank. He kept his cool until the bully called him “fuzzie face” (because Frank had a beard). Frank used one quick punch, and the punk was on the floor yelling in pain. Then Frank picked up a mike stand, and told the rest of the jackasses to bring it on. Nobody did, and the fight then ended. Frank later told me he had been in the Golden Gloves.

  87. The film ‘A Poem is a Naked Person’ opens today, August 7th, at the CircleCinema for you lucky Tulsans. Shot in ’72~’74 (I think) it features a lot of candid back-scene camera work shot in what I gather from brief descriptions was the Lake Studio. Good timing I guess, since Russell played Tulsa last night.


    This film was discussed here a little earlier.

  88. Famed Chicago meteorologist Harry Volkman, 91, is in poor health and currently hospitalized in Chicago, according to family and friends, Several Chicago on-air weather talents have wished him well.

    He was Tulsa’s FIRST weatherman on KOTV and later WKY-TV’s second in OKC, Then KWTV hired him from WKY-TV. Fast forward to a near 50 year series of gigs at stations in Chicago.

  89. Janna Clark of FOX23 reports on Leake Park pond rehabilitation plan delays tonight (7/15/2015) @ 9 pm.

  90. I remember a segment on Creature feature with Sherman Oaks and Steve ?? where they found the worst employees and had film segments. One was a terrible newspaper delivery guy and one guy let someone fall off a tower. It was hilarious. Wish that was on youtube..

  91. I’m looking for a Tulsa musician by the name of Frank Adams. I think that he was likely the son of Ted Adams and brother of Ron Adams. He was listed as living in Virginia in his mother’s obituary. I believe he played for several years in Tulsa. He played the sax, flute and guitar and probably other insturments. He graduated from Nathan Hale High School in 1966.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.
    Barbara Hale Reynolds

  92. Ran across this Mr. Zing & Tuffy song today:

    “Don’t ever leave the yard without telling mother.
    Don’t ever leave the yard without telling mother.
    It isn’t very nice to cause your mother fear,
    So whenever your mother calls to you,
    Be sure to say ‘I’m here!’.”

  93. That blows about BBSN… that and the jazz show following it were the only reasons to ever tune to 89.5.

  94. Beating the Leon/Mad Dogs dead horse (cont…)

    I just learned yesterday from a ukulele-playing former Space Choir member that there will be a Joe Cocker tribute/Mad Dogs reunion performance back east at the Locknfestival in September. Participants from the ’70 tour include: Leon Russell, Rita Coolidge, Claudia Lennear, Chris Stainton, the fabulous Pamela Polland (as in Canina), Bobby Torres and Bobby Jones. Possibly others? That would sure be a sight to see. For those in that part of the world.


  95. Hi everyone… This is Alan Lambert, host and producer for Big Band Saturday Night on Tulsa radio for more than twenty years. I first took over the show at KBEZ in 1995 and then moved it to Public Radio Tulsa in 2005.

    I have an announcement concerning… Big Band Saturday Night. A decision has been made for our show not to be renewed.

    Our last episode of BBSN on KWGS will be aired as a celebration for Independence Day, Saturday, June 27th. So, only two shows remain for broadcast.

    It’s been a wonderful to present Big Band Saturday Night on Tulsa radio… I hope to make an announcement about a new home for BBSN or a show much like it… soon.

    Thanks to every one of you for being such consistent supporters of this program. I appreciate you all!

    I’ll keep you updated on future plans through Tulsa TV Memories, our Facebook page and our email, bbsn@att.net.

    Anyone that has an idea for keeping this great music on the air or streaming or in a podcast, please let me know of your idea.

    Thanks Oklahoma and my national audience on the web. More info is available on the BBSN story from Oklahoma Magazine online. Check for the May 2012 issue with Kevin Durant of Oklahoma City Thunder on the front cover.

    Alan Lambert radiotulsa60@att.net or Facebook or Linkedin

  96. re: mike@ttm’s Whipped Cream…

    This from ttm December, 2010

    “…In recognition and celebration of the announcement by the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame that Leon Russell will receive the 2011 award for Musical Excellence, TAMA has put together a medley of some of Russell’s keyboard session work from his early days as one of L.A.’s top session keyboardists…”

    And this barely scratches the surface:

    1. Clairol “Is It True Blondes Have More Fun” Theme
    2. Moody River – Johnny Burnette
    3. Breakaway – Jackie DeShannon
    4. I Walk The Line – Herman Clebanoff And His Orchestra
    5. Say It Isn’t So – Aretha Franklin
    6. Jambalaya – The Raiders
    7. Telstar – The Ventures
    8. Ain’t Gonna Try Anymore – Dean Martin
    9. A Taste Of Honey – Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass
    10. Da Doo Ron Ron – The Crystals
    11. Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) – Darlene Love
    12. Danke Schoen – Wayne Newton
    13. Doin’ The Flake – Gary Lewis & The Playboys
    14. Down At Tony’s Cafe – Larry Gordon
    15. Hey Little Cobra – The Rip Chords
    16. I’m Not Living Here – Sagittarius
    17. Life Of The Party – James Darren
    18. Help Me Rhonda – The Beach Boys
    19. Little Deuce Coupe – The Beach Boys
    20. Little Hollywood Girl – The Everly Brothers
    21. Maybe He Will Come Back To Me – Patti Page
    22. Mean Old World – Rick Nelson
    23. Mr. Record Man – Willie Nelson
    24. Mr. Tambourine Man – The Byrds
    25. Not For Me – Bobby Darin
    26. Out Of Limits – The Marketts
    27. Queen Of The House – Jody Miller
    28. Sea Cruise – Bobby Vee
    29. Sugar Dumpling – Sam Cooke
    30. Surf A Nova – Bruce Johnston
    31. Surf City – Jan & Dean
    32. Sweet Little Sixteen – Pat Boone
    33. Tribute To The West Coast Musicians – Al Hazan
    34. Washington Square – Les Brown and His Band of Renown
    35. When Somebody Loves You – Frank Sinatra
    36. Day After Day – Badfinger

    The Bixby guy who was doing TAMA (Tulsa Area Music Archives) way back when, turned his podcasts and recordings over to an entity (forget which) who he hoped would someday make them part of a Pop Museum featuring the great music of Oklahoma. I guess there’s been some chatter lately about just such a museum to be built in Tulsa.

    Those TAMA recording are very, very cool. Interviews with recording engineers and such involved with Neon Muscle’s various studios in Tulsa, the Lake Studio and the state of the art studio he had going on in LA in the late ’60’s.

    Hope they see the light of day again.

  97. I was working at KAKC when a big change took place in 1952. The record man came in and told us that he would no longer provide free 78rpm records, only 45s. This caused a great uproar because KAKC only had one, tiny piece of equipment to play the 45rpm records. But the record man was adamant. The then poverty-stricken station had to buy new equipment.

    Now, 78rpm records are so little desired that the main second-hand record store in Tulsa (Gardner’s) won’t even accept them for re-sale. My huge collection now apparently has no commercial value. The music of our era–swing and pop–are never heard on local radio. It’s a sad commentary on the contemporary value of the culture and lives of us old folks.

    • A lot of people are interested in old records again today. I participate on a Facebook group devoted to records and other earlier sound media. But it’s a bit more difficult to find a 78 rpm player than it used to be. My 1977 turntable has only 33 and 45.

  98. I’m hoping some of you gentlemen can help with some information regarding AFRTS albums (primarily Vietnam -era, but may be applicable to the origins).

    Did the government actually record their own discs from a master tape or other source, or did they just cover the ‘factory’ label with one of their own?

    Searches I’ve made so far have proved fruitless.
    Thanks for any and all replies!

  99. Oops, I think the GroupBlog has been disabled for a few days. I was able to bring it back by disabling a setting, Block Spambots From Posting. Sorry about that.

    A WordPress update may have introduced a conflict, I don’t know for sure.

  100. My poster and vintage LP:

    Mad Dogs & Englishmen poster and LP

    Mad Dogs & Englishmen poster and LP

    Mad Dogs & Englishmen LP foldout

    Mad Dogs & Englishmen LP foldout

  101. Skip Knape aka ‘Skip VanWinkle’ (although I think Skip prefers ‘VanWinkl’) of Teegarden and VanWinkle. I know he played with a variety of groups in Tulsa before going up to Detroit with David to launch T&G, and doing work with MC5 and then small-time player Bob Seger before Seger broke out, spectacularly.

    I used to know the names of some of the ’60’s Tulsa bands Skip played with/in but but I can no longer dredge them up. Maybe there’s mention in your book?

    It’s cool that you documented that era. That was a jumping time!

  102. That 45rpms link seems to be bad (server not found error) (Fixed it…Mike@TTM)

    Sounds like an interesting book, in a Skip Knape sort of way. Hard to hear ‘Blackwell’ without thinking of Chuck. Are you related?

  103. Does anyone remember the recipe for the 1970’s Taco Boy dessert, Supai? Thanks, ya’ll…

  104. Man, I’d like to see that. With luck it’ll find the way to Netflix someday (or YouTube).

    The documentary on The Wrecking Crew will be released for sale in July I think it is. I don’t know that Russell is covered in it, but he ought to be. His studio credits on damned near any song you can think of from the 60’s is astounding.

    Another film worth seeing is ‘Mad Dogs and Englishmen’, a documentary of the 1970 tour, available on Netflix, I think. That’s a fascinating snapshot of that funny little spot in space and time too.

  105. Hey, I saw this Leon documentary on the UC-Berkeley campus about 2 years ago or so. I also got to meet Les Blank. Mr. Blank has since passed away. Enjoyed seeing Leon’s Grand Lake digs in this very interesting doc. I was invited to go see it by a woman I know in Sacramento, as she knew I was a Tulsa lore freak. Have a good day. See this doc, if you haven’t. You get to see Emily in it, too.

  106. Well durn. I recollect reading here about the creator of Maintain passing a while back, but didn’t make name connection on the YouTube video.

    I also recollect watching Maintain – thankfully in an environment that didn’t require maintaining.

  107. There’s this clip on YouTube, which you may have seen, but the guy who posted it said this in the description:

    “Uploaded on Feb 28, 2009

    John Chick Show from the Tulsa State Fair, early 1970s. KTUL-TV Channel 8. This video came from some old 2″ quad video tapes I found after my father passed away. He worked for channel 8 at the time this was shot. If you look closely, you can see him in front of the stage at the end of the show.”

    Might be worth posting a comment there and see what he might have on those 2″ video tapes.

    Good luck. I wish they were recorded too.

    • The video was posted by Jason Fincher, son of Edwin Fincher, a frequent and entertaining poster here on TTM. Edwin passed away in 2008. He was a creator of the “MAINTAIN” program on KTUL.

      Jason told us in GB 266 that he had found a trunk with five 2″ video tape reels, four of which were masters of “MAINTAIN”. Some of those videos can be seen on the linked MAINTAIN page.

  108. The John Chick show was done live and not recorded, except for a 3/4″ copy that was recorded over when the next day’s show was recorded. There’s a slight possibility that there might be some clips around somewhere, but I wouldn’t know how to find them.

  109. Trying to find out how to get the John Chick show. My dad played on the show.

  110. I’m back … with a new, rather brief film review … right here on TTM.

    For two reasons alone, I offer a brief commentary on a movie that recently opened: first, some of the reviews of it — although I initially passed on seeing it — have been nigh onto rave notices; second, because It Follows, the movie being reviewed sort of, gives me a solid reason to use the word “trope.”

    I wouldn’t have bought a ticket to see It Follows had I not read its laudatory commentary written by some who, I guess, have had to sit through lots of goofy scare-you-to-death horror flicks populated with young folks who do really unbelievably stupid things in order to get in deeper trouble with whatever the hell it is that’s endangering them. Do chainsaws ring a bell?

    “Trope” is sort of a first cousin of another more familiar term that we use and call a “metaphor.” A trope, however, attaches itself more to doing or defining something in a newer or more unique manner than a good old metaphor that stands like a silent pillar, splashed with irony, to subtly bring a point home.

    Had I seen that very long list of vacuous stories put to film in which young people flee to a cabin in an ominous forest for safety or to perpetrate some evil on other unsuspecting young men an men, I would surely be more appreciative, I guess, that David Robert Mitchell (writer/director of It Follows) has effected new tropes for a really tired and overworked film genre. Good for him.

    There is an important thing though that should be remembered: just because someone who’s created a new way to make an impact on the emotions of a human being sitting in a movie theater but doesn’t avoid continuing to make the characters in the novel, play or motion picture (with alternate tropes) seem really lame, hasn’t yet found a way out of the woods, so to speak. David Robert Mitchell missed that part.

    The metaphor, not trope, that seems to abide in It Follows suggests that you should not have sexual intercourse if you’re an unmarried teenager. Not because of sexually transmitted diseases but, as Mr. Mitchell implies, that “something” will follow you and, I guess, kill you — unless you first have sex with another person, and then that same “something” (possibly in another form, though) will begin tracking or following the second person you’ve had sex with — putting you, thank God, out of peril.

    That’s sort of what It Follows is about. Really.

    Iconic new tropes and old metaphors aside however, this movie doesn’t even follow through on all that which has been laid out in the two preceding paragraphs. The narrative gets itself deeper in … uh, well whatever … as it comes up to the obvious challenge of how in the hell to get this silly script to some kind of understandable conclusion. The screenplay for It Follows really misses on that count.

    Copyright © 2015 by Gary Chew. All rights reserved.

  111. CAPO 2

    Thank god the (Em) tiki bar is open,
    Thank god the tiki torch still (B7) shines,
    Thank god the (Em)Tiki Bar is (Am7) open,
    Come on (Em) in and open (B7) up your (Em) mind.

    I was (Em) out on a leave of absence,
    From any resemblance to reali(B7)ty,
    I felt like a (Em) rocket launched to the (Am7) great blue yonder,
    From the (Em) boys down at (B7) Kennedy.

    I was (Em) driving by his majesty’s court hotel,
    Where the sign said praise his (B7) name,
    I was (Em) tired and alone I couldn’t (Am7) see too well,
    But I (Em) don’t think that (B7) he was to (Em) blame.

    Thank god the (Em) tiki bar is open,
    Thank god the tiki torch still (B7) shines,
    Thank god the (Em)Tiki Bar is (Am7) open,
    Come on (Em) in and open (B7) up your (Em) mind.

    There’s a (Em) full moon over Daytona Beach,
    There’s a full moon in my (B7) mind,
    And my (Em) suntan dream is (Am7) still out of reach,
    And the (Em) strip malls are (E7) robbing me (Em) blind.

    Well his (Em) name was Mr. Dale Earnhardt,
    And he drove the black number (B7) three,
    Now the (Em) king is gone but (Am7) not be forgotten,
    Nor his (Em) like will we (B7) ever (Em) see.

    Thank god the (Em) tiki bar is open,
    Thank god the tiki torch still (B7) shines,
    Thank god the (Em)Tiki Bar is (Am7) open,
    Come on (Em) in and open (B7) up your (Em) mind.

    I know a (Em) drink ain’t the solution,
    I ain’t had one in seventeen (B7) years,
    But if that (Em) tiki bar was (Am7) closed tonight,
    Well I (Em) might just (B7) dissap(Em)ear.

    Thank god the (Em) tiki bar is open,
    Thank god the tiki torch still (B7) shines,
    Thank god the (Em)Tiki Bar is (Am7) open,
    Come on (Em) in and open (B7) up your (Em) mind.

    Thank god the (Em) tiki bar is open,
    Thank god the tiki torch still (B7) shines,
    Thank god the (Em)Tiki Bar is (Am7) open,
    Come on (Em) in and open (B7) up your (Em) mind.

    – John Hiatt

    • I love that album! Hmmm, that could be played on the uke.

      Saw the great slide guitar player, Sonny Landreth, at the Guthrie Green a couple of years ago.

      Sonny Landreth in Tulsa, 2012

  112. New Tulsa Tiki bar: The Saturn Room
    Opening Night: April 10 starting at 4pm
    Address: 209 North Boulder Avenue in the Brady Arts District.

  113. Johnny Ross is back doing an ad for Snow’s furniture. We learned in GroupBlog 115 (2002) that the arm-windmilling, eye-popping salesman is an advertising man who used to sell furniture himself.

    In motion 24/7
    “If you don’t come see me, I can’t save you any money!”

  114. @ JimmyB – Fairway Auto Mall would be correct ; their building and interior decor – especially those big paintings up high around the walls copied from an early 70s set of GoodYear promotional posters- was definitely superior, but Whitlock Auto around the corner by Casa Bonita was a better store… 🙂

  115. Janna Clark interviewed me for her FOX23 News report airing today at 5 pm. It’s an update on her Leake Park pond rehabilitation project story. The story will probably be slotted around the 5:45 pm time frame.

  116. That would be Fairway Auto Mall as I recall. Lucky I can recall anything at this point.

  117. I’m trying to recall the name of a big auto parts store in Tulsa from the 80’s that was located at 6556 E. 21st St. (about 2 blocks east of Sheridan) It was in the building that Nichol’s Marine is now. Large franchise store with many t.v. ads. Any help?

  118. I’m sorry to pass along news that former KTBA DJ Stacy Richardson has passed away.

    • This is sad news to wake up to. I can’t seem to find anything online yet. I talked with Stacy in person several times as well as on this forum. What a smart, knowledgeable guy, and a nice one, too. He wrote these articles for this site: Memories of KAKC and The economics of free-form radio. Erick or other readers, please let us know more when you can.

      A pic from the “Almost 30 Year Reunion” of the KTBA, KMOD, KKUL, KTOW Air Staff (1973-1979) at the Deadtown Tavern, Tulsa on 06/06/03.

      (Left to right) Brad Zimmerman, Cecil Norris, John Moore, Stacy Richardson, and Don Cook.

      At the Deadtown Tavern

  119. The video in question may have been of the Hotel Tulsa that sat at 3rd and Cincinnati. It came down in 1972.

  120. I saw the crosswalk video during the 40th anniversary special. That’s what reminded me of the other video.

  121. Does anyone remember an old episode of Saturday Night Live that had a bit that included a building implosion in downtown Tulsa in the background? It had a camera set up on a sidewalk a few blocks away with the soon to be gone building in the background. They just filmed random passers by and later dubbed in the “director’s” instructions. After a couple of minutes the director hollers that “it’s just not right…..that building in the background is ruining the shot….lose the building!”, and down it comes. Please somebody remember this before I convince myself it never happened. It would also be quite the bonuis if you could narrow down the time frame so I could find the actual episode again.

    • Don Richardson replied on TTM@FB: “I remember it. There was another one with a red button that said, ‘Do not push this button!’ Of course, someone did, and a building fell. But I do remember the one you speak of. Had no idea it was filmed in Tulsa. Probably ’77 or ’78, maybe? The guy who made these films did all kinds of gags.”

      Mike@TTM: I know that Tom Schiller was the filmmaker who did those short movies for SNL. With that info, I found the episode Don mentioned from Season 7.

      Could we all be talking about the same short film?

    • SNL Season 7Saturday Night Live: Season 7, Episode 2
      Susan Saint James / The Kinks (10/10/1981).
      “Push Button to Explode Building”: A man (Tom Davis) accidentally demolishes a building when he hits the wrong button at the crosswalk.

      The short film by Tom Schiller was also seen in Season 7, Episode 5
      Lauren Hutton / Rick James & The Stone City Band (11/7/1981).

  122. Just a reminder:

    The random “retro video game” icon you are assigned on this GroupBlog is automatically keyed to the email address you enter (which will not be published), and will remain consistent in the future.

    To personalize your icon, sign up at Gravitar to use a square image of your choice. It will appear when you comment on any WordPress blog, not just this one, plus many other sites and forums.

  123. The Golden Drumstick

    Your past entries about the Golden Drumstick (linked within this item: Kids Karnival…Mike@TTM) underscore how different the world of the late ’40s and ’50s were from today. The great, tender chicken was hyped for using animals that “had never touched the ground.” That is not considered a plus today.

    A sidelight memory: Once we were there with a relative who had flown B-24 bombing missions during the war. (That’s the big “II” for you youngsters.) He suddenly stood up and darted out of the building. He later said that the air conditioning in the building sounded like the German flack that he experienced on missions. He just had to get out of there.

  124. Mr. Dolfan: Thanks for your come back to me. I might be persuaded to post some of my up coming reviews with my first love, T-Town TV-Mems. Next week I have a comment coming on a new Sean Penn action flick. Right now you can read my review of a new sitcom created by Tina Fey of The Office and SNL fame. Her new thing is called UNBREAKABLE KIMMY SCHMIDT. It, like HOUSE OF CARDS, is only available as a streaming presentation on Netflix. I haven’t heard anything back to me from Mr. Mike, the Cord-Cutting Web Master/Blogger. You can read my KIMMY review at HumorTimes.com or ElkGroveNews.net. Have a good spring Mr. Dolfan. And watch out for them tornaydurs.

    • Good to hear from you again, Gary. It sounds like your energy level is up there, and congratulations on that! Since retiring, I find that the energy I have for online activity has paradoxically become more limited than in the past. I’m not going to be able to post up reviews, but GroupBlog comments are welcome.

  125. Fresh and new Mr Chew. Glad to hear from you. You seem very upbeat and why not. You no longer deal with this Okie snow that we are getting now. Thanks for the response. I hope to read more post and reviews from you in the near future. Thanks Gary. Bob R.

  126. I was always quite fond of the black bg’s that you provide me for my “enlightened” copy. No such luck with my other online postings of fresh reviews of movies worth discussing. 😉 -gc

  127. Mister Blog Man Master. I still have the same e-mail address. Send me sumpin’. I thought you were too young to retire, Mr. Blog Man Master. Last time I saw you, you looked so youthful as we sat having lunch at the neat restaurant near where Lee Woodward used to live at about 31st and Yale, I think it is. 😉

  128. I’ve just heard from an anonymous source that my name is being taken on the blog. I hope not in vain. 😉 And could anyone tell my how I can reconnected with the TTM blog? I forgot.

  129. I have been wondering about longtime poster and TTVM friend Gary Chew. I liked reading his comments and movie reviews. And I was wondering what has happened to him? Anyone have information?

    • I have fallen out of touch with Gary, which is entirely my fault. When I started a demanding new job in 2012, I had to limit the amount of time I spent on the site. I couldn’t keep up with the prolific Mr. Chew’s output. He went on to review for the Sacramento Press. His reviews for TTM are still available and will remain so (Chew’s Reviews).

      I have since retired, and recently created another writing outlet for myself on the Cord-Cutting Blog side of the site. Gary is certainly welcome to post whenever he feels like it, and I hope he does.

  130. I just spotted this discussion of promos. The Don Woods diner promo sounds like something I posted about on this site in 2002. Here, I’ll quote myself:

    There was a promo with Don Woods, probably around 1966-70, in a diner. He was at a table as the owner went on and on in an Italian accent about “alla this good weather you bring us, Mr. Don-a Woods,” and Woods is nodding and smiling politely. Next we hear thunder and see Don Woods lowering his umbrella with a sheepish look on his face. He’s come into the same diner out of the rain. The owner says to him, “You got a reservation? I dunno if I got-a room-a for you. Maybe I can-a find you a table. Lemme see what I got. If I can-a squeeze you in here.” He puts Woods into a chair, pushes it in tight to the table, and pours water into a glass on the table so that it splashes on Woods’s hand. The voiceover comes on with something like, “Don Woods. At six and ten.”

  131. Hey Mike,

    Here’s a screen shot of Sasha Foo that I took tonight:

    Sasha Foo today, courtesy of David Batterson Sasha Foo today, courtesy of David Batterson

    Sasha Foo then (click, then wait until the cards are cut for some flashy dance moves):

  132. The photo taken Feb. 14, 1964 was at a court appearance for the so-called “Kissing Bandits.” AKA, “Kissing Burglars.”) They’d pose kissing at parking meetings while emptying the contents. Anyway, they didn’t like us filming them outside the courthouse and the female defendant, Carol Jean Baker attacked Gregory smashing his camera. The Tribune wanted to use a frame of my film and we processed it and I ran it down to the newspaper. When police arrived they recommended I make a citizens arrest, which I did. I don’t recall what ever happened in the legal system. Hopefully, you the caption can be enlarged enough to read. They had fun with it.

    It reads: NO VALENTINE SPIRIT HERE — This drama of disaffection was staged Friday, Valentine’s Day, at the courthouse with Carol Jean Baker, one of the parking meter, “Kissing burglars,” as the feminine lead. When KTUL-TV photographer Bob Gregory tried to take pictures of Miss Baker she attacked him furiously. Also on hand was KVOO-TV photographer Mike Miller, who made this action shot of the Baker-Gregory encounter. “Keep shooting, Mike,” Gregory urged his rival photographer as the blows fell. He suffered scratches on the neck.

    This photo was in a box of clippings I had been saving to use in my book. It was stolen (I believe) by one of my daughters angry boyfriends in a fit of anger.) A guy obtained it somehow and emailed it to me last night.

    How could you NOT cover a court appearance of the “Kissing Burglars” on Valentine’s Day?


  133. Thank you so much for sharing the video. Gary was a great guy in and outside of work. He would be pleased that so many of you are celebrating his life.

    Emily did a great job putting this together. The commercials Gary did are funny.

  134. KVOO DJ’s 1974-1980 and Later. Billy Parker Midnight-5a. Jack Fox, 5-9a. Jay Jones, 9a-Noon. Will Jones, Noon-4p. Wayne McCombs, then later Ralph Everly, 8p-Midnight. I’ve wondered were they are today

  135. What tv service do you have? Is it cable, satellite, fiber or off-air?

    If it’s a pay service of some kind, see if you can find a pair of rabbit ears. Tune in KOKI off the air and see if it’s still out of sync. If it’s not, than you have to take it up with your cable provider…..or satellite, fiber, etc.

    When I have experienced these problems with a channel, it’s almost never the channel. It’s the provider.

  136. RSUTV Production Manager Dale McKinney has retired, according to the 2/15/2015 issue of “The Signal”, RSUTV’s newsletter. Dale was and is an amazing writer as well.

    The UHF 25 Celebration netted RSUTV a NETA Award in the promotion category for best special event. Weird Al’s movie “UHF” and RSUTV’s 25th anniversary were the subjects of the celebration. Emily Elliott of KTUL and I were the tour guides of the UHF locations tour for RSUTV contributors.

  137. Oh for goodness sake. I love your station. But, really, can you NOT sync the sound to the picture. This is the second day, and it drives me crazy. We watch KOKI2 I would say 85% of the time, but it won’t stay that way if you guys cannot get your rear in gear and sync sound with picture.

    Thank you!
    Meme Stevie

    • I can’t sync it because this blog has no affiliation with KOKI. But perhaps a KOKI engineer might be reading this blog.

    • Re KOKI sync from a former engineer at KOKI:

      “Usually, this problem is internal to the viewer. The viewer may want to reset all equipment related to his/her television reception, including cable box, television set, external audio equipment, etc.”

  138. Sorry, Ken. I just looked more closely at that picture. I just saw the curly hair and thought it was you. I remember that guy, although I don’t know his name.

  139. Just now caught the second set of pix and Jim Reid is again right, that is not me. The camera that is in the shot is a Hitachi FP-3030 that was only used by KOTV in the Tulsa market.

    KTUL only used the TK-76 in the early days of ENG. I later worked at KOTV and initially used Hitachi SK-80 cameras. The lower cost 3030s were long since retired.

    Regarding the shirts, as the news photog fashion leader, you can clearly see my flair and influence. This dapper fellow has the look.

    I do have a couple of shots of me in action back in the day, but I am not sure how to post them to this blog.

    My brother Dave and I both worked at several stations in the Tulsa area in the late 70s and 80s. Today I am the Regional Sales Manager for Ross Video (Switchers, Graphics, etc). http://www.rossvideo.com Dave is the Regional Engineering Director for the Sinclair Broadcast Group. Dave lives in San Antonio and I am here in Tulsa.

  140. The week of {March 24-30, 1974) I spent spring break at my grand parent home near Stroud. I listened to the radio a lot Stations KVOO, KRMG and KUSH in Cushing mainly KVOO AM 1170 sad it’s gone! News wise what was the headline stories? I remember a kid was missing other than that what other stories.

    Back to KVOO AM some DJ’s I remember Billy Parker he’s on 99.5 , Any info on Jack Fox, Jay Jones, Will Jones, Wayne McCombs, Ralph Everly

  141. Hey Jim – earlier you mentioned the Ostmo “brothers”. Was his brother(s) also in “the business”?

    I won’t venture a guess about the brother’s sartorial je ne sais quoi…

  142. That pic of Ken was from a different time than the other one. Those are KOTV cameras. We never had those minicams at 8. We only had the RCA TK76’s.

  143. Does anyone remember the Parson kids: Linda, Jimmy, and Judy? Wanted to reach out to those who knew them once upon a time.

    And was Jerry Webber on Channel 8? Or was he Channel 6? (Channel 2…Mike@TTM) I will NEVER forget an episode of AFV (I think it was AFV) Jerry started reporting, all serious “Elvis has been spotted alive and well” (something along those lines.) Holy CRAP. He broke out laughing so hard, I was in stitches. Just wonder where I could find that clip. YouTube.com maybe? This was YEARS ago…I was actually in Texas when I saw the clip. My dad and I have never laughed so hard. LOL

  144. More (see previous photos below) from Anonymous via email:

    Here’s proof Ken (Ostmo) was prone to going hand-held. The artist he is shooting is the inimitable Miss Nancy Godsey. This was a Museum School Open House at Philbrook.

    Nancy Godsey and Ken Ostmo
    Nancy Godsey and Ken Ostmo

  145. That interview with Jim Economou is a fascinating listen. Thanks for the link.

    The only school desk I ever enjoyed sitting in.

  146. I was shocked to hear of Dave McFadden and was searching the net when I found this blog.

    Even more shocked to see a picture of George Stewart and me further down the page. Jim Reid, great to hear from you Jim, got it right.

    George Stewart and I started on the same day at KTUL, June 1, 1978. George and I worked every weekend and frequently during the week for about a year. George was later promoted out of daily reporting tasks to News Director. Later I had the pleasure of working with him at KGCT and at Tulsa Cable. I really miss George.

    There are very few pictures of me working for KTUL. Even more rare are pictures of me working with a film camera. Finally proof that I DID use the tripod….

  147. (Coney Island link and comments via email from Richard Hamby):

    Very interesting stuff for Tulsans, and for the ties to ‘James Coney Island’ in Houston, which I had never known before (divulged fairly early on).

    Kind of long because it’s 19 chapters varying from 33 seconds to over 7 minutes… lots of Tulsa history as well as some other states and countries. (I had only known the part about ‘Dallas before Tulsa’ but not a lot of the other.)


    I well remember the original Christ Economou (especially how he rolled the very hot franks with his bare hands at the ‘old’ 4th Street place). Also his youngest daughter, Georgia (from high school), and Grandson Chris (at TU), neither of whom I knew personally then but remember from the Coney connection. Also had a conversation with Jim’s granddaughter (Caitlin) at the ‘new’ 4th street location a couple of years ago when I bought a Coney to take to my old hunting/shooting buddy Bill Dart when he was ill.

    Also found out from this interview, with Jim Economou, the reason that there’s still no Coneys quite like the downtown version (James’ Coney Island in Houston excepted)… their chili is different (and not in a good way). Closest I found was the place that used to be in Fayetteville, AR.

  148. As chance would have it, today I watched ‘Saving Mr. Banks’ – and near the end of the movie, during the premier of ‘Mary Poppins’ scene, the curtains in the theatre parted and I immediately thought of you Scott, and the education you provided regarding embedded curtain cues on the film being projected.

    A Happy New Year to you too.

  149. Happy New Year to all TTVM folks. I worked audio on the Rose Parade for many years for the KTTV broadcast.

    It’s gonna be pretty chilly there for the crew, as well those on the street who are watching the parade tomorrow….

    My best to all for 2015….

    Scott Linder

  150. I was a projectionist/switcher/film makeup from 1975-78 and a director from ’78 to ’81.

    I then worked for 3 years as production manager at OETA/channel 11.

    Then in ’84 I got a job at KDFW IN Dallas where I’m still working.

    My only appearance in one of Carl’s promos was in the saloon promo. I’m the drunk on the floor at the end of the bar. I’m wearing a derby.

  151. Jim,
    I hate to sound like Columbo, but one more thing ….
    what did you do at KTUL and are you in any of the promos?

    .. thanks again for the answers

  152. The blonde in the ice skating promo is Diane Elliott. She gotten married since and has a different last name.

    Susan Silver left in late ’76 or early ’77. Her replacement was Barbara Allen.

    Beth’s replacement was Diana Moon.

    I do remember the spot with Don and the Italian restaurant owner. It might be before my time (1975), but I think it was shot at a restaurant in London Square over on Lewis at about 56th.

  153. One last thing(s) on the promo reels:

    1) In the first ice skating (the one with the adults) who is the pretty blonde at the beginning between Don Woods solo and Uncle Zeke from Uncle Zeb?

    2) What year did Susan Silver leave and who was her replacement (the lady on the bicycle)?

    3) And who replaced Beth Rengel, the lady dancing with Bob Hower in the “Celebration” spot?

    Thank you to who ever posted these promos, that have bought back Sooooo many nice thoughts. The one promo I didn’t see that I remember is one with Don Woods. In it he predicts nice weather and is welcomed by an Italian sounding owner at a restaurant. He then predicts rain, and then is not so welcomed by the owner. Does anyone else remember it?

  154. Joe Winett reports that Dave McFadden, creator of “The Time Channel” spoof seen on this site’s YouTube channel, passed away on Friday. Our deepest condolences to his family and friends.

    Joe says, “There was an announcement in Tulsa World on 12/27/14, but his name is misspelled (McFaden).”

    I met Dave when he came over to my house with the “Time Channel” computer file. I’m very glad he shared this bit of Tulsa TV humor with us.

    Here is an April 3, 2011 post by Dave in GroupBlog 324 with a promo photo from “Make Me Smile”, a comedy show taped in the basement of the Tulsa Library!

  155. George Stewart was a wonderful guy! He started as a reporter but had become news director at the station during the last years I worked there directing the news, so we worked very closely together.

    He was very rare, as he was a man of principle. He left the station when they did something he strongly disagreed with. He very easily could have just gone along and kept his job, but when he felt something was unjust, he was very open about calling them on it.

    He was also a lot of fun to work with, a wonderful since of humor. I really miss talking to him.

    The last time I saw George was at the State Fair, down here in Dallas. Cindy Martin (another Channel 8 vet) and I were walking along outside the Cotton Bowl stadium when there was George, sitting on a bench. Hadn’t seen him in close to 10 years. We had a nice little visit, although I can’t remember what we talked about.

    I was probably at that Christmas party too! He and Charlotte threw great parties! Sorry to burst your bubble about Sasha, but what you experienced was not uncommon.

    I think the photog is one of the Ostmo brothers. Looks like Ken. (could very well be wrong)

  156. I was just a kid and around 1950 we had a little extra, so we splurged and went to the Golden Drumstick for the best fried chicken. I was especially impressed with the blue glass windows and always enjoyed looking out them over the years.

    When I heard they were going to tear down the building I planned to try and get those blue glass windows but Circle K bulldozed it flat, windows and all before I had a chance. They were worried someone would save the building for historical reasons. Tulsa has a long history of being in a hurry to tear down one of a kind architectural treasures for parking lots, convenience stores and such.

    Talley’s Cafe is catercorner from where it used to be at Yale and 11 St. on old Rt. 66.

    The Golden Drumstick

    • The Drumstick has a Tulsa TV history connection, too: Kids Karnival. Also, it was previously known as the Casa Del Club, and later as The Middle Path restaurant. More at the link.

  157. From Anonymous via email:

    I got to thinking about George Stewart recently, looked on TTM, and of course there was mention of him (GroupBlog 82).

    I knew him more from the time he was shepherding/running The Free Store downtown in the early seventies than his Action News Guy days, but I’m not surprised to see him remembered warmly here. He was a great guy.

    I remember being at a Christmas party he and his wife Charlotte threw in what was most likely 1977 or 1978. Fun party. The takeaway memory for me was having successfully flirted with Sasha Foo (at least think I did) and she flirting back (at least I think she did). One must count the small victories in life.

    Here are a couple of photos of George at work. The occasion was a workshop held by visiting clay artist John Glick and the location was the Museum School at Philbrook. George is sporting the white britches, tie and mustache. Maybe someone can identify his cameraman?

    At Philbrook 2
    At Philbrook 1

  158. The ice skating was around ’79 I think. The Marilyn Monroe contest was after I left the station in early ’81.

    When I first met Karen Keith she was an intern from OSU at channel 8. A few years later, she was hired as a reporter and worked there 2 or 3 years. I worked at 2 different stations with Karen. She’s one of nicest folks you’ll ever meet and a great friend.


  159. what year were some of the promos:

    the Marilyn Monroe Contest
    the Williams Center skating, I didn’t know Karen Keith had worked for Channel 8
    the Riverparks and downtown skating

  160. Susan was the first, and they had Margaret Radford on weekends. Susan left and was replaced by Barbara Allen in ’76. Margaret left and was replaced by Phyllis Watson. Barbara left in ’79 when her husband (news director Jeff Rosser) got hired at WNBC in NY. She was replaced by Beth Rengel. Phyllis left and was replaced by Diana Moon. Beth then left and Diana moved up to the weekday slot. At this point it was 1981 and I left the station. That’s all I know.

  161. I was wondering, does anyone know who the female co-anchors on KTUL were? I remember Susan Silver, but who were the others and what years were they there?

  162. Just checked in for the first time in quite a while. Good to see Betty Thompson is still doing well and manning the switchboard at Channel 8. I’m old enough that I was there before people called her “mom”. I left in KTUL in 1981.

    About 10 years ago, I heard that there might be a reunion of former employees coming up. I have lived in Dallas since ’84, but still remembered the phone number. I called to find out, and got about two words out of my mouth when Betty said “is this Jim Reid?”. She’s pretty amazing!

  163. Re GroupBlog posting problems, in addition, I removed a blacklist and a proxy server blocker. I hope that fixed the problem of getting “Forbidden” when you try to post.

    Feel free to post a one or two word test post to check it. I can delete those easily enough.

  164. Apologies to anyone who recently tried to post, and got a “Forbidden” or 404.4 error! Even I couldn’t post.

    GroupBlog comments were inadvertently blocked by a firewall setting. The GroupBlog should be now open for business again.


    For my own future reference, the culprit was a setting in a plugin, WP Security All In One. Apparently, it regards posts to the GroupBlog plugin as coming from a spambot:

    “Block Spambots From Posting Comments:

    “Check this if you want to apply a firewall rule which will block comments originating from spambots.

    “This feature will implement a firewall rule to block all comment attempts which do not originate from your domain.”

  165. Mr Linder! How swell to see you checking in. Through your posts, you are the character I imagine working the projectors of all those movies I sat through in the 60’s and 70’s – even that provocation of a kid’s patience: The Sound of Music.

    The trial of that long, merciless run finally became interesting to me, all these years later, when I read your accounting of showing the lack of wear on the print to the muckety-muck studio guy (or distributor rep or whatever he was) illustrating the great care that that was taken with the print by the Tulsa boys. No need to order a fresh print. That was priceless.

    And since I know you’re looking in…forgive me for calling you ‘Projectionist Emeritus’ and not the ‘Motion Picture Operator Emeritus’ you surely are.

    Take care

  166. Hello to all TTVM folks. I tried my best to view your comments from the past few months, but is more difficult for me now, as I had a stroke a few months ago.

    It’s harder for me to use the computer now, but I still remember all from Tulsey Town. Yes, Lazzaro, I still remember showing “The Sound of Music” for months at the Brook Theatre on those lovely Norelco 70mm projectors !!!

    My thanks to all who were no nice to speak with me for many years with regard to movies and radio in Tulsa for several decades. Love to you, all.

    Kind Regards,
    Scott Linder

    Yes, I’m still here…..!!

    • Welcome back, Scott! I’m happy to see that you are typing pretty well considering your recent setback. Keep on doing it whenever you think of a good item about Tulsa theaters, or any other Tulsa topic.

  167. I was at KRMG in 1956-57 when Joe Knight was there with his afternoon music show. He left the station before I did, and Johnny Chick took over his program. No rock ‘n roll music was played, only pop and swing. This was when KRMG was in a furious ratings race with the ascendant KAKC which was featuring the new music. (Elvis Presley’s first big hit didn’t occur until 1956.)

    My shift on the KRMG Newsmobile overlapped with Knight’s program. He was a nice guy who had a rather vanilla personality. On the air he frequently referred to himself as the “Knight of the spinning round table.” He loved to turn the mike on occasionally say, “Alms, for the love of Allah…………Legs for the love of mike!”

    Another good guy gone.

    • Good to see you back, Frank!

      On another topic, I just did some work on the sidebar to make things easier and better. Check it out if you haven’t recently.

      For the first time ever, the extensive Tulsa TV Memories original site and GroupBlog (with the new Cord-Cutting Blog) are together on the same account and domain, hosted by service provider directNIC in Metairie, Louisiana.

      This new WordPress GroupBlog is so slick, I almost feel apologetic about how retro the original site is.

      The latter still has a couple of things going for it, though. The pages are static and coded in lean HTML. It is extremely fast-loading, and it works well on phones and tablets.

      I started Tulsa TV Memories in 1998, and it looks it. But TTM has been around long enough itself as to provoke an occasional twinge of nostalgia for longtime participants. It’s also very simple, which is good from an archival standpoint.

      So for those reasons, along with sheer laziness, I haven’t made any plans to convert it for a more modern platform. But I will continue to link to that rich content, much of it authored by readers like Frank, and add to it, though not at the furious pace of earlier years.

      I had to create a new blog altogether in order to use the WordPress comment-guestbook plugin as the new GroupBlog.

      The new Cord-Cutting Blog is letting me communicate what I am learning about my latest interests. I hope you find it useful and informative; I am having a great time learning about both cord-cutting/home theater, and the WordPress universe. Posts about both Tulsa TV/radio/etc and cord-cutting will show up on TTM’s Facebook and Twitter.

      See the bottom of the sidebar for ways to subscribe to this blog. The main TTM page Bulletin Board also displays RSS feeds.

  168. Joe Knight
    (Above: Joe Knight)

    From Scott “Scooter” Segraves via email:

    Sad news for Tulsa radio listeners ‘of a certain age,’ shared from one of my radio pages:

    “Joe Knight has passed away. It is hard to be a broadcaster in 2014 and not look back at the guys, and ladies, who, (in their era), set the stage for the rest of us today.

    Joe Knight was a DJ when the “Boss Jock” ruled the airwaves and when “talent”, unlike today, was not a dime a dozen.

    It was a time when rock and roll, and soul, were the kings blasting through the AM static with kids hanging on every word sang, or spoken.

    Joe was a giant among the Baltimore radio greats. But more importantly he was a very good guy, and a fine man. Respect to him, and much love to his family.”

    Never got to hear his show, since he’d migrated to Baltimore by the time I started at T-U in fall ’58. But listening at night to KRMG (BTW, a primary reason for my college choice), I frequently heard ‘Young’ John Chick or ‘Doc’ Hull refer to afternoons with “the Knights of the spinning turntable.”

  169. Dabab,

    I’m thinking that was Horn Brothers who advertised their $500-600 Home-Pak.
    Some finely carved 2 x 4 furnishings well suited for your new mobile home.

  170. Thinking back around 50 years ago, or so. What was the name of the furniture store in Tulsa where a person could buy furniture for your whole house as a bundle? Anyone remember name of it?

    • Are you thinking of the Horn Brothers and the “Zamora Home Pack”? Read about them and other furniture advertisers on the Horn Bros page.

  171. Hello!

    I just saw the tributes to Johnny Martin of KRMG and it was great to recall all the time I spent with Johnny. I was his news guy for nearly 3 years. Bob Losure did morning traffic, I did afternoon traffic and then worked till 10p or 12 midnight doing news with Johnny. I remember he gave me a dollar to put in my billfold and said “No good man should ever be without at least a dollar.” Helped him throw the net out as he used to say at the close of the show on many nights and his wonderful introductions of Peggy Lee and Patti Paige.

    Lots of fond memories of KRMG. Charlie Morris, then of WKY, and I traded evening reports and voicers with each other between Oklahoma City and Tulsa. I remember he and I covered an accident on I-40 I believe one night, turned out to be the accident in which Karen Silkwood died. Charlie did a lot of reports on a guy by the name of David Boren, I believe Charlie ended up being his press secretary or something.

    There was a new coach that was just hired for Oklahoma and just before he arrived in the studio for his first interview after taking the job, I asked him what he thought of taking over a team just now put on probation, it was young Coach Barry Switzer.

    Then there was this guy who on more that one opportunity used to bum a cigarette from me on the Liberty Towers elevator after an interview, Congressman Jimmy Jones I believe was his name.

    Lots of wonderful memories reporting with Bob Losure, Jim Back, Susan Bunn, Don Cummins, Ed Brocksmith.

    I remember doing something really off the wall one time with Watson Jelks, he and I floated down the Arkansas River from Sand Springs to just south of Tulsa on a sort of rubber raft so we could draw attention to the river and possibly develop it, shortly after that float trip, we started the Great Raft Race as a promotion to draw attention to the river. All those things from 1972 to 1975, when I then returned here to Wichita to be a news director of KLEO radio. Been in Wichita since. It used to be a lot of fun taking Mayor Bob LaFortune out in traffic with me, that was a hoot. One time, I was in the KRMG news cruiser telling people to be very very careful of the ice forming and while on the air, i pulled down the exit ramp to Lewis and ran into a guy in front of me since I couldn’t stop on the ice…ha. He got out and said hey, I was just listening to you!.

    I treasure the memories and thank you for all of them Tulsa and KRMG, the remarkable 74. “The News is first on KRMG, the second it’s News”, I’m Joe Shurtz.

  172. In GroupBlog 274, Jeff asked about the teen religious sitcom that aired in Tulsa for a time.

    I believe he is talking about a part of a Saturday night show called Fire By Nite (Wikipedia) produced by Willie George Ministries and Church on the Move, starring then-youth pastor Blaine Bartel. The sitcom portion was called “Family First”.

    Blaine went on to become pastor at Northstar Church in Dallas, then resigned over an “extramarital affair” then was out of the spotlight for a few years, and then joined on at Life Changers International Church in Chicago.

  173. I saw a very dapper man named Mike Ransom on the news last evening and knew right away that it was our very own TTVM Web Maestro. Serving the public with insight on a very stinky situation with the pond scum at a local park. Great seeing you Sir and keep up the good work here locally.

    • Well, thanks, Bob. Don’t know about the “dapper”; it might have served the cause better if I had dived into that pond and come out looking like the Swamp Thing.

      FOX23 put the video of their Leake Park pond report up on their site today. I think the 3 reports they have done have been effective. Thanks to reporters Janna Clark, Ian Silver and cameraman Dave for taking on this story.

  174. I learned too late yesterday about the memorial service being held for Edward Dumit. He passed away on June 20th. (Tulsa World story)

    Ed taught radio broadcasting to thousands of students in his half-century career at the University of Tulsa, and its FM station, KWGS. He also had a fine set of pipes himself, which are still heard via sound file every day on the station as a tribute.

    I was acquainted with him, and he was a fine gentleman. Here are comments from TTM readers in the just-previous GroupBlog 341. He has been mentioned many times over the years on TTM, and even wrote in himself on several occasions. Just type Dumit into the TTM search engine.

    Public Radio Tulsa is holding a fund drive this week, and it is dedicated to Edward. I have volunteered for phone duty myself. Listen to 89.5. It’s a great asset to our community.

  175. At around 5:45 pm, Janna Clark of FOX23 will report again on the poor condition of the pond in James C. Leake park. I was interviewed in her August report, but not for this one. I thought this story might be of interest to some readers because of Mr. Leake’s longtime ownership of KTUL-TV.

  176. Wondering about Projectionist Emeritus Scott.

    Please check in, Scott, despite your ruthless screening of the dreaded ‘Sound of Music’ at the Brook.

  177. I am so glad that Channel 8 let Yvonne Lewis leave her job with class and dignity.

    Almost always when a local personality moves on to something else, they just disappear without the public knowing anything at all. These people become part of our daily lives and I have never understood the sour grapes that media companies have toward their on air talent when it comes to the parting of ways.

    She was always a joy to watch and I wish her well in her new venture and stepping out in faith with her Christian-based business.

  178. Housekeeping notes for this new GroupBlog:

    I have simplified the “Post a Comment” form by removing some unneeded text and eliminating the Captchas, as they have become ineffective in preventing spam.

    WordPress has an excellent spam-fighting plugin, Akismet, which continually learns from spam on all WordPress blogs using it.

    A few spams may get in from time to time, but it’s best for posting to be as easy as possible.

    The random ‘retro video game’ icon you are assigned is automatically keyed to the email address you enter (which will not be published), and will remain consistent in the future.

    To personalize your icon, sign up at Gravitar to use a square image of your choice. It will appear when you comment on any WordPress blog, not just this one, plus many other sites and forums.

    Let me know if you encounter any problems.

  179. It’s been a while since I’ve been to the site and wow, it looks great!!! Just read about Betty Thompson… Both Betty and Herschel are class acts… Great Tulsa Speedway memories of them both… and Congrats on 45 years!!!!!

  180. I have been trying to find out anything I can about a radio show from around 1986 or so. I figured TTM would be the best place (besides being a great place to visit).

    KMOD aired a show on Halloween night for two or three years that they called “Dead Air”. It had some of the station’s DJs telling weird, Twilight Zone-type stories but the thing that really sparked my interest was the fact that they were told in a first-person narrative, like the person is telling what happened to them. And the other thing is that they were all set in or around Tulsa.

    One story told about an inter-dimensional portal that a guy stumbled upon while driving this 260Z (Datsun, not Nissan) down a rural road outside of Prue.

    Another had this guy telling about this an incident that happened in downtown Tulsa where someone named George Wells disappeared into some kind of machine while chasing another guy… both dressed like 19th Century gentlemen.

    Any of this ring a bell with anyone?

    How would someone go about getting a copy of the shows?

    • Wow, Tim, it’s been awhile since you checked in! I will cross-post your question to TTM@Facebook to get maximum exposure, and an answer, I hope.

      Certainly, if there is going to be an inter-dimensional portal anywhere in NE OK, it would have to be near Prue. 🙂

  181. Dear Tulsa TV Memories:

    Hello. I am a dance historian and NYU professor researching televised teen dance programs of the 1950s and 1960s. I am particularly interested in Tulsa’s “Dance Party” and would be interested in hearing from anyone affiliated with the program — dancers on the shows or any “behind the scenes” people such as directors. cameramen, and production assistants. I’m also interested in hearing from any African Americans who may have danced on the shows and getting their perspective. I welcome any reminiscences, memories, or anecdotes. Would anyone know if Lee Woodward, host of “Dance Party,” might be available for an interview?

    You may also respond to me privately at: jmm2@nyu.edu.

    Thanks very much.

    Julie Malnig

    • Julie, glad you got in contact with Lee Woodward about “Dance Party”. Hope some of the other contacts I passed on to you bear fruit for your research.

  182. Betty at KTUL in August 1999

    Here is a photo of Betty the KTUL receptionist taken by Mike Bruchas when we visited KTUL in August 1999:

  183. Brought to our attention by a Tweet from Michael Bates, 1970s furniture magnate John F. Lawhon spoofs himself. His store was over on Pine St between Memorial and Sheridan.

  184. “But it was appropriate to celebrate and be glad, for this, your brother, was dead, and is alive again. He was lost, and is found.”

    –uh, or something like that. 🙂

    Welcome back!

    • That makes two ended hiatuses between us. Welcome back!

      For those arriving late, I am sometimes moved to embellish posts with images and links to content from the site, as I just did with David’s post.

  185. The old GroupBlog (service now defunct) lived in Crete, Greece. This new GroupBlog and Webmaster Blog are actually part of the original site, on the same host in Metairie, Louisiana.

    I am hopeful this will be an improvement.

    I will also be bloviating about home theater and cable-cutting tactics in the new Webmaster Blog. If that isn’t your cup of tea, feel free to ignore the amazing nuggets of wisdom soon to be imparted. 😉